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    perhaps a ranking system such as one that tennis or boxing uses may help to 'arrange' the contenders and set up the league in such a way that battlers can move up and down in the rankings based on who they battle in what #position.

    It would look something like...

    #1 PoRich
    #2 Sketch Menace
    #3 Pat Stay
    #4 PH
    #5 Aftershock
    #6 Thesaurus
    #7 Hollohan
    #8 Loe Pesci
    #9 HFK
    #10 Charron
    #11 Marvwon
    and so on..and so on....(these rankings are just for illustration)

    now lets say ppl can only go for a title shot if they are in the top four, and unless they are ranked 2nd, they would have to face another rapper in the top four, and the winner would get the title shot. Sketch would not get an immediate shot but lets say he could win his next three battles against ppl in the top five, and was still ranked 2nd, then maybe he could get another shot.

    now using my example above, lets say PH faces Sketch and wins, he gets the next shot, and sketch would go down to perhaps 3rd or 4th on the ranks.

    I think there should be more frequent title shots, like every three-four months (3-4 times a year) and using some variation of the above format may be what KOTD needs to organize the pecking order in the league. It may also ignite some sort of 'bounty' for the rappers, and fuel their hunger to move up the ranks, and call o ther rappers out to battle.

    Now, who gets to decide on the rankings? I don't know, but maybe a panel of like ten or twelve judges at first to get it all sorted out, and then a simple set of guidelines to follow afterwards will keep the table in check after the battles take place.

    my 2 cents, but i think this shit would definately work in KOTD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Spulecki View Post
    PH-Saurus is happening - http://www.facebook.com/events/381218211918451/


    And this is what I said on the HFK/title status before to you and you never replied -

    'How about, level of skill of battles + the amount of time he has done it in + the battlers who he face = Being active in the singles division of KOTD.

    Now, its hard to fault HFK on not being as active since like you said, his last 3 battles are good(I think he beat Diz and won the other 2) but he went in the 2on2 GP knowing that he would be putting aside 1on1 battles for atleast a year. Plus there was the shot at getting a title shot if you won the whole thing(which is why Rich got it). But he didnt win the GP with Charron, and his last battles was against Uno and Madness. Now, if you really want a shot at the title, would you really take the Madness battle over asking for a better opponent who is up in rank in the KOTD title race? I will say that the Madness battle is a once in a life time thing to do, but so is getting a shot at the title for some people.


    In the end, Im more a fan of HFK than I am of PH, but when it comes down to it, PH has done what HFK hasn't(atleast publicly apart from the Uno battle), which is make it known that he wants to battle people who are in his way for a shot at the chain.

    I didnt condone what KOTD did with the 2on2 GP winning team getting a shot at the chain, but in some way, it makes sense. Just like it does with PH getting a shot.


    But here is the kicker, Saurus apparently wants to battle PH now w/ the winner getting a title shot. The original plan should have been Saurus-PH at Octane or Carnage(I think is the May event) and winner gets a title shot. Saurus to me, lost that when Sketch got the battle with PH. PH-Rich seems like it will happen after Carnage.'


    Im a BIG Shocks fan and he lost to PH, as much as I'd want to edge the 3rd to him, didnt happen. and He beat Sketch too :\

    I wish HFK would be battling Saurus at the Carnage event for the #1 contender spot and PH battling Rich that night for the title, only because it would clear up all this confusion and it would be killing 2 birds with one stone.


    And with the whole Top 8 thing, it would make some people really mad in the end and with the Fresh Coast division now, imagine those guys after 1 or 2 battles. I think making one up in your own head is better than a public one made by KOTD is better.
    I think I totally missed that reply in the other thread. My bad.

    I gotta say, you're equation doesn't seem to make too much sense to me. "level of skill of battles + the amount of time he has done it in + the battlers who he face = Being active in the singles division of KOTD." Taking the first bit out (because, unless there is a typo, I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "level of skill of battles."), you're basically saying that you would rather reward someone newer to KOTD who gets big names (which only really happens for international battlers) than someone who has been active since day one.

    Soooooo

    PH beat Skelly. He's a guy with that similar street style and I imagine that's why that match was set up. Skelly wasn't exactly a huge name/someone with a great record on the line, though. I do think that if Skelly swapped his third and first rounds, it would've been a lot closer.

    PH edged Arcane, due to slips and what not. But again, a match-up to play on their similar styles (and WD is all international match-ups, most of which are geared more towards fun and less to standings). Without the slips/choke, it could've been a much different outcome.

    I still say the Shocks battle can be argued either way, but I didn't think either dude gave their best all-around effort.

    With the Sketch battle, I think Sketch had the better material, but he could barely string his bars together. I can't really think of a PH line that stuck out to me.

    So, PH already gets an advantage with your equation because he's an international battler and got bigger names right out of the gate, plus, I think that two of his battles could've easily gone the other way/he wasn't very impressive.

    Same goes for Thesaurus. His first KOTD battle was against Hollohan because it was a big international match-up. No other reason. Saurus' only other KOTD battles (not counting losing the title) are against Eurgh and Pat Stay (since you don't want to count the 2v2 GP as part of contention standings). The Eurgh matchup shouldn't factor into contention standings.

    When you plug HFK into the equasion, I think it looks a lot more impressive. He's been around since Day 1. Has battled a lot of tough competition: Tricky, Osa, Twist, Jack Shitt, Pat Stay, Sketch, plus several international matchups with Diz, Madness, ZM and Uno.

    I don't know how anyone would put a fairly new, international battler over a dude that has been grinding for KOTD since day one. Especially when HFK has been putting on dominating performances in the last year and half. The ZM and Uno battles weren't close. He should've beat Diz and I imagine that, had the Redzer battle happened, Redzer would've been demolished.

    PH has been slid by at least two of his four opponents because they choked or gave less than stellar performances.

    I think a ranking system would clear up most of the confusion. If not a ranking system, some kind of criteria NEEDS to be put down. The Fresh Coast division is gonna be so different from the TO division, that I almost feel like they should get their own FC Champ. But it seems like a lot of the big FC matches are gonna be promo, and I doubt something like that would fly anyway.

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    HFK all day yall made some good points tho.. funny thing is everyone counting porich out !!! id like to se Po defend his title still... juss to vex the haters n all



    NAd sure did shut me up n prove me wrong tho..

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    Thesaurus shouldnt get a title shot im hoping ph and Thesaurus is promo and the winner of the grand prix battles ph for the title shot

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    Some Grind Time emceees???

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeepCalmAndSmokeKush View Post
    Some Grind Time emceees???
    What about them?? lol
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    Thc

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan Spulecki View Post
    What about them?? lol
    I personally like Grind Time rappers like:
    Soul Khan
    Dirt
    Rone
    Passwurdz
    Philly Swainz
    Moodswangz
    Thesaurus
    Lillmaculate
    Mac Lethal
    Dizaster

    It would be cool to see some of those rappers come to KOTD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Century Sam View Post
    perhaps a ranking system such as one that tennis or boxing uses may help to 'arrange' the contenders and set up the league in such a way that battlers can move up and down in the rankings based on who they battle in what #position.

    It would look something like...

    #1 PoRich
    #2 Sketch Menace
    #3 Pat Stay
    #4 PH
    #5 Aftershock
    #6 Thesaurus
    #7 Hollohan
    #8 Loe Pesci
    #9 HFK
    #10 Charron
    #11 Marvwon
    and so on..and so on....(these rankings are just for illustration)

    now lets say ppl can only go for a title shot if they are in the top four, and unless they are ranked 2nd, they would have to face another rapper in the top four, and the winner would get the title shot. Sketch would not get an immediate shot but lets say he could win his next three battles against ppl in the top five, and was still ranked 2nd, then maybe he could get another shot.

    now using my example above, lets say PH faces Sketch and wins, he gets the next shot, and sketch would go down to perhaps 3rd or 4th on the ranks.

    I think there should be more frequent title shots, like every three-four months (3-4 times a year) and using some variation of the above format may be what KOTD needs to organize the pecking order in the league. It may also ignite some sort of 'bounty' for the rappers, and fuel their hunger to move up the ranks, and call o ther rappers out to battle.

    Now, who gets to decide on the rankings? I don't know, but maybe a panel of like ten or twelve judges at first to get it all sorted out, and then a simple set of guidelines to follow afterwards will keep the table in check after the battles take place.

    my 2 cents, but i think this shit would definately work in KOTD
    This is how most competitive anything ranking systems are...
    I second this..

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeepCalmAndSmokeKush View Post
    I personally like Grind Time rappers like:
    Soul Khan
    Dirt
    Rone
    Passwurdz
    Philly Swainz


    Moodswangz
    Thesaurus
    Lillmaculate
    Mac Lethal
    Dizaster

    It would be cool to see some of those rappers come to KOTD

    ... do you even watch kotd more then half have been in kotd...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KeepCalmAndSmokeKush View Post
    I personally like Grind Time rappers like:
    Soul Khan
    Dirt
    Rone
    Passwurdz
    Philly Swainz
    Moodswangz
    Thesaurus
    Lillmaculate
    Mac Lethal
    Dizaster

    It would be cool to see some of those rappers come to KOTD
    As @lakim shabazz said, do you even watch KOTD? lol now, if you are talking about those people getting title shots, Soul, Rone, and Philly dont battle anymore(but have battled in KOTD). Dirt, Mac, and Mood(who is terrible) dont even have any KOTD battles. And Illmac, Diz, and Pass dont have enough battles to be considered. Saurus, well if you are actually paying attention to KOTD, then you know whats going on.

    So ya. What you said is like people saying Tricky and HFK should battle or Jack Shitt and Sketch should.
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