[*K.O.T.D.*] - [FLATLINE] - [$5000 GP FINALS] - THESAURUS/ILLMACULATE vs PORICH/DIAZ

[The Mast]

Fucking disgusting. Absolutely shameful. That's obvious, but there's something I wanna address.

Why are people hating on Diaz for dissing Drake? Ever since he showed up at King of the Dot (Which I have said that I respect him for, multiple times) people have all of a sudden forgotten that dude is a fucking wack MC. Just because he supports the movement, it doesn't mean we all have to sit around kissing the dude's ass. You don't HAVE to diss him, but since Flatline everyone's suddenly become a Drake fan.

It's retarded. If you liked his music before, fine, but there are lots of people who clearly didn't and now they do.

The irony being that Drake seems like the type of dude would would take the diss with a smile and know it is what it is. He doesn't seem like an idiot, so I'd imagine he knows how his skill, or lack thereof, is perceived. That sucks; people having an issue with shit that he probably wouldn't have even been offended by.

[GC3]

In my opinion Illmac and Thesaurus were robbed. Why didn't they show the footage of the judges explaining their decisions. I think that considering the reactions Rich and Diaz were getting, Illmac and Thesarus' bars were just getting slept on or the crowd was very bias. Rich and Diaz were really disrespectful and annoying for talking over their bars. At the same time Thesaurus shouldn't have touched Diaz and I think it kinda put the crowd on Rich and Diaz' side even more than it was. Also a few stumbles doesn't mean you lose the whole fucking round.

[GC3]

I knew that no matter what, if Thesaurus and Illmac lost there would be controversy

[bigmother]

i dunno about that this one kotd, " i think harry switched the cards"
my personal judgement.....this is why KOTD needs OT in very special battles like this and maybe for the chain. Illmac said it best " he beat himself" everyone else great performance. The one thing Diaz and Po Rich had top teir where how tight there verses sounded, but on the other hand half of there verses where just flips of other peoples shit so i dunno.

[The Mast]

Here's the thing, though...

People say that shit is different in person and sometimes you need to be there to experience it because a lot of important elements get lost on camera. Not having the atmosphere on camera is understandable, not having the judging isn't. I said it before and I'll say it again: if you do NOT get the judging on cam, you have no right to say fans will bitch. It IS suspicious. If I judged a battle, the one thing I know I would NEVER do is judge an MC on shit that had nothing to do with bars.

Thesaurus pushed Diaz, so what? His bars were better.

"They were being rushed out of the venue." I don't care. These men flew to another country to battle for $5,000. Either judge it properly and do so on video or hold off until you can make that happen.

If that's the case, have the important battles early and then announce the results later. Let the judges judge ONLY that battle and give them an hour or so to stew on their decision. Enforce rules that touching or talking during rounds (Diaz) will result in a warning. Do it again and you forfeit. People will soon start showing respect if that happens. There are ways to minimise this shit happening.

Maybe even just let Organik and the co-hosts judge. They are at pretty much every battle and have seemingly zero biases. Who hates Organik? Nobody. Who hates Gully? Nobody. Even though Lush One has some biases and annoying behaviour at times, he appreciates bars and I wouldn't be mad at HIM judging either.

Judging is definitely something that needs to be improved. I don't think we should all be told to shut up just because we weren't there. You can't thank us for the support out of one side of the face and diss us with the other. Some of us physically and financially cannot be there. I plan to donate to King of the Dot starting in the New Year, I told this to Organik. I plan to put about $50 a year into the movement. I'd say we all have a right to judge.

I'm not unsubscribing, and the people saying shit about King of the Dot are fucking retards, but this was a massive disappointment.

[nad0023]

Here's the thing, though...

People say that shit is different in person and sometimes you need to be there to experience it because a lot of important elements get lost on camera. Not having the atmosphere on camera is understandable, not having the judging isn't. I said it before and I'll say it again: if you do NOT get the judging on cam, you have no right to say fans will bitch. It IS suspicious. If I judged a battle, the one thing I know I would NEVER do is judge an MC on shit that had nothing to do with bars.

Thesaurus pushed Diaz, so what? His bars were better.

"They were being rushed out of the venue." I don't care. These men flew to another country to battle for $5,000. Either judge it properly and do so on video or hold off until you can make that happen.

If that's the case, have the important battles early and then announce the results later. Let the judges judge ONLY that battle and give them an hour or so to stew on their decision. Enforce rules that touching or talking during rounds (Diaz) will result in a warning. Do it again and you forfeit. People will soon start showing respect if that happens. There are ways to minimise this shit happening.

Maybe even just let Organik and the co-hosts judge. They are at pretty much every battle and have seemingly zero biases. Who hates Organik? Nobody. Who hates Gully? Nobody. Even though Lush One has some biases and annoying behaviour at times, he appreciates bars and I wouldn't be mad at HIM judging either.

Judging is definitely something that needs to be improved. I don't think we should all be told to shut up just because we weren't there. You can't thank us for the support out of one side of the face and diss us with the other. Some of us physically and financially cannot be there. I plan to donate to King of the Dot starting in the New Year, I told this to Organik. I plan to put about $50 a year into the movement. I'd say we all have a right to judge.

I'm not unsubscribing, and the people saying shit about King of the Dot are fucking retards, but this was a massive disappointment.

Cosign this and your Drake comment all the way

[Sean G]

LoL all the people from canada are doing the same thing if thats your logic.....i dont judge it by who the crowd likes more (some do) i dont think that diaz or rich came with anything to warrent the reactions they were getting. When i look at the bars for themselves i think illmac and thesaurus got it.

Thats fine with me overall good battle

[Droppinknowledge69]

Based on bars...this was one of the most blatant robberies ever. There is NO WAY IN HELLLLLLLLLL Po and Diaz got either the 1st or 3rd....NO DEBATE. Judging is so fucked, you need good judges or there just going to go off the feeling of the room and I think the only reason why the judges voted for Rich and Diaz is because Thesaurus came off super arrogant and emotional. First off, the most disrespectful thing in the battle by far was Po and Diaz calling out Thesaurus's punches back to back lines...not everybody understands how disrespectful that shit is but I know on the far West coast and the far East coast of the US that's one of the most disrespectful things you can do...but when Thesaurus pushed dude, was SUPER emotional in the 2nd, and was bad mouthing/reacting to EVERYTHING Po and Diaz said in the 3rd I think all that came off bad in Canada and the judges reacted to that and NOT the bars (which is SUCH a bad look). I think its SUPER lame that the judges didn't explain themselves...that's fucked. KOTD has got to be careful about making the right decisions, that was one of the reasons GT got alot of shit was because their judging was fucked (settle down KOTD lovers, I'm just saying that bad decisions are a bad look). Overall, the battle was alright but the decision was just not a good look AT ALL for KOTD.

[jasonredranger]

Thesaurus and Illmac won round 1&3. easy.The third round for them was one of the sickest ronuds I have ever seen in 2vs2. That backwash line was incredible. Bias won it for Diaz and rich. They wanteit to be hometown underdogs slay the big named americans.

[KingFly]

security had made 3 of the 5 judges leave the venue when the battle was over. KOTD was an hour and a half over the alloted time to be in the club (club XS is a VERY popular night club in toronto - Situation Saturdays gets that club packed every saturday starting usually at 10pm.) This battle didnt end until way after 10. Security didnt care if the judges recorded thier decisions or not, they kicked them out.

So it is what it is.