King Of The Dot Fresh Coast Presents Vendetta: Battle Royale

why the name change?

Probably because Makaveli was lame, haha.

No offense. Vendetta just hits harder.

Will UStream be able to cope with the demand ?.....maybe disable the chat function on ustream and tell people to register for this site and post on the KOTD chat box. Just an idea. How much is it anyway ?

Originally Posted by FinalRound

Will UStream be able to cope with the demand ?.....maybe disable the chat function on ustream and tell people to register for this site and post on the KOTD chat box. Just an idea. How much is it anyway ?

It would be a dumb idea. Just close the chat if you dont want to see it all.

Originally Posted by Ryan Spulecki

It would be a dumb idea. Just close the chat if you dont want to see it all.

I was thinking more along the lines of it encouraging more people to register for your site. I do disable chat on ustream.

Originally Posted by FinalRound

I was thinking more along the lines of it encouraging more people to register for your site. I do disable chat on ustream.

Well I think people would shoot it down. Rocky already mentions every other site but the KOTD one until someone told him to. Im just being realistic :\ sorry for being a downer.

how does diz keep landing these huge battles? i can easily list off 5 battle rappers with a more deserving spot. i'm guessing it has to do with his drive/willingness.

Originally Posted by dontpraiseme

how does diz keep landing these huge battles? i can easily list off 5 battle rappers with a more deserving spot. i'm guessing it has to do with his drive/willingness.

What Active KOTD battlers could you name?? Pat, Pesci, and 24/7 off the list.

Originally Posted by Ryan Spulecki

What Active KOTD battlers could you name?? Pat, Pesci, and 24/7 off the list.

Who has put in more work than Diz?

Originally Posted by tCruzin4lyfe

Who has put in more work than Diz?

In KOTD, a lot of people.

Originally Posted by Ryan Spulecki

In KOTD, a lot of people.

for starters, our man that's stuck battling a scrub like arsonal deserves bigger names.

Originally Posted by dontpraiseme

for starters, our man that's stuck battling a scrub like arsonal deserves bigger names.

Do you realize he would kill Canibus? And that KOTD would want him back one day. Why do you think DBD battled MadChild and not Bender, Pat, or Pesci.

Originally Posted by Ryan Spulecki

Do you realize he would kill Canibus? And that KOTD would want him back one day. Why do you think DBD battled MadChild and not Bender, Pat, or Pesci.

excellent point. i'll take it.

I fuck with Bender but he, Pesci or Pat cannot beat Diz. Only person in KOTD capabale of that is Hollohan. No hate to any battler but Diz put in his work from traveling around the world, taking random battles at the last minute, battling PERIOD, leaving his comfort zone & going to NY, partnering with Okwerdz (which is a task in itself) lol. I mean dude has done some battles just for the love of it. On another note I do not know why Arsonal keeps gettin battles, smh. Illmac will take care of that tho. I hope they release some more match ups soon.

Originally Posted by tCruzin4lyfe

I fuck with Bender but he, Pesci or Pat cannot beat Diz. Only person in KOTD capabale of that is Hollohan. No hate to any battler but Diz put in his work from traveling around the world, taking random battles at the last minute, battling PERIOD, leaving his comfort zone & going to NY, partnering with Okwerdz (which is a task in itself) lol. I mean dude has done some battles just for the love of it. On another note I do not know why Arsonal keeps gettin battles, smh. Illmac will take care of that tho. I hope they release some more match ups soon.

First, tell me who you think Diz has lost to. Second, I dont like Arsonal that much and can be Captain Planet at times, but he is good. When the battle between Illmac-Ars was supposed to happen last year, it probably would have been the best battle of last year. I dont think it will let you down from both sides.

Originally Posted by tCruzin4lyfe

I fuck with Bender but he, Pesci or Pat cannot beat Diz. Only person in KOTD capabale of that is Hollohan. No hate to any battler but Diz put in his work from traveling around the world, taking random battles at the last minute, battling PERIOD, leaving his comfort zone & going to NY, partnering with Okwerdz (which is a task in itself) lol. I mean dude has done some battles just for the love of it. On another note I do not know why Arsonal keeps gettin battles, smh. Illmac will take care of that tho. I hope they release some more match ups soon.

I mean, for real? SMP almost beat Diz.

I can't hate on Diz for putting in work and traveling all over doing battles, but his overseas battles aren't too great. Did you watch the Bowers battle? or the battles Diz did out in Punch-Out?

Taking short notice battles usually leads to shitty battles, and most (if not all) of the Diz's short notice battles are pretty terrible. Watch his battle with Sensa. Diz's rounds are mostly trash.

Now, the only battles I've actually liked him in are against HFK and Swave (but thats mostly because I really hate Swave). I mean, I was never a big fan from the start, I always thought Diz was mad over-hyped, but I really started to not like him after the A-Class battle, because it really exposed Diz for what he is. Manipulates the situation to his advantage and just does the whole loud, offensive bars to get the crowd in a frenzy. Put Po'Rich and Diz in a matchup. They have the exact same style (only I like Rich way better because he doesn't always feel the need to rap for ten minutes at a time).

I'm not that big a Bender fan, but, bar for bar, he'd crush Diz. Pesci, I don't know how that would go. Pat, on his game, would also smash Diz's head. Hollohan would undoubtedly massacre Diz, but there are a lot of KOTD emcees that can beat Diz.

I think that if Diz focus his shit, and stopped being a huge pussy about time limits and making things unlimited rounds, and took fewer battles and actually prepared his shit well, he could be really great. But he's stretches himself thin by taking any and all battles. I don't think he's a great writer to begin with, but it has become more and more evident over the last year or so. Even in the DNA battle, it seemed like Diz didn't prepare well. By having the super long rounds, his material had a ton of weak spots (I'm not saying DNA was much better, but DNA obviously prepped better than Diz did.)

I wholeheartedly agree that Ars is complete trash, though. I cannot understand how he keeps getting battles and generates so many views. "I'll pick my nose and slap your mother with the same hand!" That's a hard bar? He should be banned from battling for his "10 ways to kill a Canadian" scheme against Pat. It was just terrible. Plus he's a total diva about EVERYTHING. Hitman, Calicoe and Rex all bodied him. Shit, even Okwerdz bodied him.

Yeah I understand, I just mean by taking short notice battles, it's for the love tho, entertainment. Most cats cant freestyle to save their lives and Diz is one of the few that can do it all round. Diz is at his best when he prepares. I mean Diz vs NoCan was fuckin SICK! That was 2 weeks notice and he killed Swave and the whole NY pretty much. SmP only had Rd3 IMO, plus that was another short notice battle. No offense to SMP but I wouldn't have taken him seriously either. But again, I agree, I would much rather Diz chill and actually prepare for battles and it seems he has because I know for a few moths straight he was in every event damn near and I was getting tired of him for a sec cuz he quality was dropping. Another thing I agree on is that the unlimited time thing is getting ridiculous. I think 3-4 minutes should be max for anyone. It just seems when it's unlimited the battler doesn't know when to finish and they lose a lot of steam towards the end and messes up the vibe. With time limits you can pretty much make sure u have a strong punch as a closer for each round that will leave a much better impact. I think Diz vs DNA was a good timed match but yeah 3-4 minutes tops. I honestly don't wanna hear Canibus go for longer than that either.
And someone asked me who I think Diz has lost to... Um I know for a fact he lost against Locksmith and Illmac. The judges gave PH the win over him but I totally disagree but that's my opinion. Other than that he has been solid minus a few short notice freestyle battles. Also he sucks on beat so he was shit at that Paid Dues event. Battles I remember him winning (IMO) DNA, Swave, Surgeron General, QP, The Saurus, Reverse Live, Organik, HFK, AClass, SmP, NoCanDo, Shotty, Jerzy Swift, etc. Him & Okwerdz got a couple of good wins too when they were traveling. Oh and I would have added te Arsonal battle to the list but I barely remember it since that battle got cut short.
On a side note I would love to see Hollow Da Don out n KOTD. I know Pat said he returned or whatever but Hollow Vs Pat would be pretty sick.

I just peeped another part of your comment, we will have to be agree to disagree but Bender can't hang with Diz 2 me. Bar 4 bar, ok but the thing with battling is its not all about bars. It's presence, delivery, crowd control, etc. Thats Diz's strong point, he can rap, freestyle and get the crowd hype. Jokes, personals and racial, it has it all there for him while most rappers stay in one lane alil too much. Look at the Sketch Vs PH battle. PH had personal, delivery, jokes and out rapped him. Sketch had some sick bars but 0 presence. The main thing I got out of Rich vs Sketch was that Sketch was BORING! Now back to Bender, he isn't boring but Diz has too much energy for him, that's that.
Pat Stay... Um he would be tough (I don't like Patty really) but he can almost match crowd control and aggression like Diz but idk I never really felt he really goes in like that. Against Hollohan yeah he did and he holds ground overall. But that's another example, Pat doesn't really have bars at all. Bender would kill him lyrically but Pat has that presence, crowd, jokes, personals, (I hate this word) but he has that "swag" that helps carry him through. So yeah Diz Vs Pat would be a tuff match up but I'd still give it to Diz.
Pesci, he has bars but no, Diz all day on that.
Hollohan, him Vs Diz would be ridiculous! That battle would be so debatable and I think it would just come down to preference. If you hate Diz your gonna go for Hollohan and vice verse. That would be one of those battles no one would agree on unless one of them just totally choked on some Loe Pesci shit lol. I haven't heard much of Diz muzik but I have to say I bet Hollohan raps better cuz that song Hollohan just recently dropped about drugs & Bruce B was fucking SICK!

Crowd control means shit. It's a cool thing to be able to do, but that's like saying you won a fight because you had your boys.

In a battle between Bender and Diz, it doesn't matter who the crowd root for. What matters is who has the superior attacks on the other person. Bender has the superior bars, by far. So, let's analyse what else there is.

Crowd control means nothing. It shouldn't anyway. The judges should judge based on how well a person attacks their opponent. Go to a concert if you wanna see someone work a crowd. It means nothing.

"Presense"? Diz's presense varies between admittedly explosive charisma, and just being very loud, rambly and nonsensical. His first round against S.M.P. was very strong and so was his first against D.N.A., too. Other than that? That SHOULDN'T win him a battle.

Delivery? As with the presense, if he gets too hyped it can cause his delivery to suffer. Case in point: Vs D.N.A.

Bender getting loud and aggressive just gives his shit more punch. Case in point: Vs Arcane.

Dizaster isn't seeing Pesci, Pat or Bender when it comes to battle RAPPING. He might be louder and he might be able to make the crowd roar, but that's not battle rapping. That is crowd control. So what? That means Diz would probably be an incredible, phenomenal live performer. He is in battles. So what, though? Diz can go off, I know this. Everyone knows this.

Find me a Dizaster fan who doesn't fall back on, "BUT HE CAN CONTROL THE CROWD!" and I will find you a black, gay republican who is openly supportive of gay marriage and abortion.

I don't hate Diz. He's very good and insanely hard working. He's just incredibly overrated based on something that has nothing to do with how well you attack your opponent. All you're doing is saying how boring everyone is.

Who gives a fuck? Mayweather bores the shit out of me. Find someone who can technically and comprehensively deny his place among the top boxers ever, though. He doesn't give a fuck if you enjoy his fights. He wins. He is the best at winning. He stays winning.

The same is said of battling. It's not about how boring you find someone, it's about their attacks. Some people DO have legitimately boring delivery and that affect impact of disses. THAT is measurable. What you're talking about is, "I like Diz more, so he's better." I'm sorry, it doesn't work that way.

There are sprinters that people like more than Usain Bolt. It doesn't mean they are better.

Diz lost to Saurus, he barely beat S.M.P., he got smashed in the first and third in his battle with Nocan, he lost to D.N.A. if the biting rumours aren't true, I think Sensa took him out (That was with two weeks prep). He has a handful of matches you could argue he lost.

People are never as objective as they can be when it comes to Diz.

Originally Posted by tCruzin4lyfe

Battles I remember him winning (IMO) DNA, Swave, Surgeron General, QP, The Saurus, Reverse Live, Organik, HFK, AClass, SmP, NoCanDo, Shotty, Jerzy Swift, etc.

Wait.

You think Diz won the DNA battle? After putting so much emphasis on crowd control? That instance in the ONLY TIME I would ever put any judgement into crowd control.

Like half of those battles were trash though.

Aside from the DNA battle, the only three I'd have to REALLY disagree on: RL, A-Class and HFK

I think that Reverse Live beat Diz. Bar for bar, Reverse crushed him. Diz just did the whole "i'm louder and more aggressive. Reverse Live should be getting the exposure Diz has gotten, because he can actually rap and he's got great bars.

A-Class? A-Class spanked Diz. THREE ROUNDS of nothing but Asian jokes should never win a battle. And A-Class had GREAT bars. The Aladin/Jasmine line won that battle alone.

HFK should've won that battle. Hands down.